Interview with the Writer

Doctor of Philosophy and a Licensed Clinical Psychologist working as a Psychotherapist in his own private clinic, the writer retired as Docent in Psychology at Stockholm university in 1999. He lives in  Manchester City Centre in the United Kingdom. 

During his professional career he published several articles in peer reviewed international scientific magazines. Subjects reached from  biological reactions to stress to Measurement Theory and the origin and quality of Self-Esteem. He published his Doctoral Dissertation in 1983, ISBN 91-7146-413-1. His Basic Self-Esteem Scale, ISBN 8879465309, is published and still sold by Erickson in Italy. 

ABSENCE is his first literary work, which in different versions took close to five years to accomplish. He is now working on three new manuscripts and launching and selling his own Pornographic Video-Art Products online.

This interview took place in London, on July 11th, 2019. The interviewer was an American friend and journalist living in the UK. The interviewer recorded the interview and typed it for the writer.

 

About posing or not as a gay writer?

Interviewer:

Most people in your book are gay. But you never use this word; you refer to gay people as faggots or homosexuals, the few times you refer to their sexuality? I find this condescending.

Writer:

A trivial fact: at this time the concept gay was not in use by people in Europe or Australia. As you notice, the people in the book never discuss their gender-roles or sexual preferences. What they were they were, but was not talked about, as little as they talked about having noses.

I: But one is a controversial issue. You are not even willing to choose LGBTQ+ as a category for this book. Why?

W: Absence doesn’t belong there. I read the short introductions to the books labelled as LGBT. They use exactly the same language and the same content as stories in cheap pornographic magazines during my childhood in the fifties. Such is not my book.

I: The content is still largely about LGBT people?

W: Yes, but they do not appear as typical literary LGBT people. When you classify Crime and Punishment or Gone with the Wind as Heterosexual books and when you refer to Mark Twain and Jane Austen as heterosexual writer then maybe LGBT classification will do. Absence is not about homosexuality, it is about love and sex and the lack of both.

I: One may infer from the book that you have a complicated relationship with homosexuality. In one place you let the main character, Simon, refer to his sexual life as a homosexual, and I cite: “Whatever practical adjustment he made with others of his sex, there was no mutual connection with equal gratification for both parties as for a pussy and a dick, only a second-rate attempt which never reached the fulfilling glory of the original act of love.” 

W: Yes, that can be a tough insight to deal with for a young man. And the only way he seemed to deal with this ‘straight fact’ was to get drunk most of the time. But this insight he presents in the latter part of the book.

I: To continue with this theme: the only positive sexual relationship in the book is between a young man and a young woman.

W: The most negative sexual relationship described in the book is also between a young man and the same young woman as you mentioned.

I: What should we infer from this? That it equals out?

W: No. But do not use every single instance to make an inference about a collective or another member of that collective. Evaluate each case by its own special circumstances. And let every individual represent only himself. Let each situation and each person be treated by its own merits, and don’t judge routinely referring to popular concept which are losing their meaning, like misogynist, paedophile or racist, used as invective to silence people with a different view.

 

About sexuality in the Anglo-Saxon world.

I: The narrative takes place mainly in Mediterranean countries. There you let your characters make critical remarks about Anglo-Saxons and especially about people from the USA, or United States of America, as you spell it out.

W: Yes, because you have a negative, I would say hostile, attitude to sexuality and often even to your own. You pretend bodily functions don’t exist. You don’t even have a toilet, you piss and shit in the bathroom. You treat sexual activities with shame and don’t see fellatio, cunnilingus or anal stimulation as something of the most positive a human being can do to another human being, something one may spend hours to celebrate with zest and abandon. You quickly do away with sex in darkness, and when you’re tired or intoxicated by alcohol or drugs. How often do you spend hours in the full sunlight of a warm day naked with each other for hours? You don’t. You have more important things to do. Perhaps one could argue that there is a little more important to do in life than to give happiness and pleasure to another human being. Instead, you are loaded with a religiously determined hostility, which has created limitless harm to yourselves.

This hostility has created wounds in your emotions that are so deep and so excruciating that you condemn or regard as reckless everything that threatens to make you aware of your wounds and even more make you aware of the harm you do to yourselves and to others. And thus, you punish with hate and destruction anything that makes you become aware of your own buried agony and pain.

I: So why don’t you write an ode to this fantastic human quality? Instead, in this book at every instance when these people find themselves in a sexual situation, things go wrong. They do each other more harm than good?

W: Because they are wounded, each one of them in a different way.

I: What has wounded them?

W: Their mothers, their fathers, without understanding what they did. And why did they wound their children? Because they are wounded children themselves and have not become aware. Too painful to deal with or even recognise. You live your lives in an all-embracing denial.

I: And this is particular in what you call the Anglo-Saxon world?

W: Different cultures tackle sexuality in different ways. Your way is not good. A child born into a culture automatically is affected by the collective mind of that culture.  And your collective mind about sex and body functions is not good for a child. This is one reason why many males abandon heterosexuality. The kind of sexuality your women with power want to impose on your society is not attractive.

 

To turn gay or be a rapist or abuser is a natural reaction to the oppression they have felt already as children by the most important  people around them.

I: There is no way to get out of the misery you describe?

W: Yes, there is, at least partly. By turning away from ignorance and face reality and accept. To emancipate. But for this we need an active and vibrant culture, not be ruled by totalitarian socieies with money power but no culture that will make humanity reach to a higher level.

I: Ha hah, I can hear both Jeffrey Smart and Simon in that reply.

W: Yes, but of course. Madame Bovary? C’est moi!

 

About homosexuality as a result of serious emotional wounds

I: You say the people in your book are all wounded. Is their homosexuality a consequence of those wounds?

W: Yes, I am sure. But distinguish between homosexual behaviour and homosexual personality. Sexual activities between individuals of the same sex would be natural for many sexually active and sexually attractive individuals, especially during their most active years. That is to act ‘homosexually’ and may be a part of the celebration of the lust to give pleasure to those involved. On the other hand, being compulsively gay is disastrous for most people. Media feed us with the few gay people who may have found an acceptable way to live. For most gays, life deprives them of the fruits of the earth. Their deprivation of real love creates a devastating wound to carry through their lives. Some do it with a gay hurray, some with a dagger in their chest, the coward does it with a thrill laughter, the brave man with a thousand tears.

I: Why do you think life is not good for most gays?

W: Because gays are not being loved.

I: I know many gay people who love each other.

W: Of course, you do. There are exceptions to everything, except dying perhaps. Most gay people never get the love they have sacrificed everything to be given. Most gay people urge for the love of a man, not from another gay “sister.” The men, whose love they long for, don’t love them. They love women.

I: Ok, but if this were true, why do you need to say it?

W: Ignorance will only create more wounds and more wounded children. Parents are let to believe the misconception that being gay is as emotionally and sexually rewarding as being straight. That is false.

I: And your book?

W: Maybe a small contribution to avoid the growth of too much ignorance. Even if your reality is harsh, you will fare better by accepting your reality the way it is than pretending it is gay not harsh.

I: Do you want people to see your book as a discourse?

W: No. See it as a tale about some special men half a century ago living in special circumstances. I hope the reader finds the book entertaining; it certainly still affects me emotionally even if I have read most of the book hundreds of times. If the book also makes you reflect, the better, and I would be pleased.

 

About the acknowledged and appreciated Australian artist doctor Jeffrey Smart

I: This person, who is well-known and appreciated in Australia, occupy a substantial part of your book. There may be clues in the book why you write about him, but why do you?

W: I found superficial both his Memoirs from 198x, called Not Quite Straight and the various shorter biographies appearing in the many books about his paintings. They gave the picture of a different Jeff than I had known. Was it necessary to write a book to amend that superficial view? Probably not, I may have had ulterior motives as well.

I: I guess some people in Australia will be shocked by some of the opinions he so freely seems to share. His view on Australia and Australians will surprise and shock some people. And so will his permissive attitude towards clearly paedophile activities. You must have considered the effect this could have on his post mortem reputation.

W: You must remember, this was another time and to a great extent another world. Most things in human behaviour was looked at differently from today.

I: As a narrator you have a clearly positive attitude to Justin O’Brian’s relationships with Brian Dunlop, who could have been as young as fourteen when they began their ten year long sexual relationship. You are also overwhelmingly positive to his relationship with fifteen year old Ethan?

W: Sometimes it is easy to see when people love each other. And who are we others to forbid them to do that, based on some arbitrary chosen rule. Let everything be valued on its own particular merits and circumstances.

I: Finally, what do you think will be the destiny of your work. What do you fear and what do you hope?

W: Considering the look of the market for books, I guess it is easy to drown and become a total failure. I have no sweet and tasty pastry to serve a hungry audience. If I am lucky and the book is good enough, which I sometimes believe and sometimes not, I could reach an educated, open minded audience, readers of literature not too happy with their lives and circumstances. They may get some solace from sharing with my people their experiences  and lack of love and sex, from an eleven-years-old prostitute in Athens’s sleazy harbour town to the splendour of a Roman palace and its president of a world-wide oil company.